I need help *abuse trigger*

I have a friend who I've only known recently but she's known my DH since Junior High. She got pregnant at 18 and left him because he is extremely controlling. She wasn't in his life for awhile pretty much her whole pregnancy. Well when Hannah was about 2 months old Julie went back to him because he threatened to take Hannah from her and never let her see her again. Julie believed him and got back together with him. They moved to Georgia (We're in AZ) and she stopped really talking to us. He didn't want her to talk to my DH, and Carlos even got on the phone on time when Crit was talking to Julie and threatened to fly down here and "beat his ass" if he ever talked to her again. They contiued to talk on and off, but more off. Carlos enrolled in the army and we thought it would finally be her chance to get away. But instead she married him. She got pregnant again. They moved to Cali when she was about 7 months pregnant and have been there since (Jacob is 9 months old) Well Carlos was recently sent to Iraq. She thought she would finally have freedom. Instead he demanded she go stay with his parents, in Springerville which is about 45 mins from us. He controls her money and she isn't allowed to leave the house without his brother or sister with her. And he has told her to stay the hell away from Critter! She had to lie and tell him she was paying his parents rent so she could have money to eat, because his parents leave their meat out and it makes her sick. One time he even told her the way he knew a woman really loved him is when "you can beat the shit out of them and they stay with you" It's completely horrible. She says how she wishes he'd just die in Iraq and talks about how much she hates him but is too scared to actually leave. He told her he'd take her kids away and she'd never see them again if she ever tried to leave. And as much as I tell her he can't do that she just doesn't believe me. He has some stupid video on his phone from when she was 18, about 3 years ago, of her getting fucked up. He's using the video against her saying it shows she a bad mom. I told her it doesn't matter, she still doesn't believe me.

She was supposed to come over this weekend but now she's not because she can't leave unless his sister Nadia comes with. I had planned this big dinner and got Ian's room ready for her to stay. And now she has to come tomorrow while Crit's at work. Carlos doesn't even want her seeing me since I'm Critter's wife. It's just ridiculus. I even had to give her Aidan's old clothes for Jacob. They have all this money in the bank and she can't touch it because of him. I'm afraid when he comes back, he'll make good on his threat. I have a feeling even if he does beat her she won't leave. I think she just won't tell us because I threatened that if he laid a hand on her I'm driving out there and getting her and the kids. I would too! I know what it's like having an abusive father (well step but same thing) I don't want her or her kids going through that. I think about it constantly. I just don't know how to get through to her. HELP!!!

I need help *abuse trigger*

Unfortunately, if she's not ready to accept that she can/should leave, there's probably not a lot that you can do for her right now. The best thing you can do is show her that you support her, and won't give up on the friendship no matter what, even if she stays with him. And let her know that when and if she's ready to leave, you'll be there to help her. You could also get her information on domestic violence and resources for abused women in her area. Make sure you give them to her in a way that he won't find out, though. I have a friend who's been in an abusive relationship for almost 9 years, and she's finally talking about being ready to leave him. I tried everything to help her see how wrongly he was treating her and convince her to leave. After a couple of years, I couldn't stand to be around her when he was around (and she pretty much wasn't allowed around me when he wasn't) and I just stopped being friends with her. Obviously, that didn't help and since she has no support from her family or friends, if she felt like leaving in the time that we weren't talking, she might not have known how to find the resources to leave. We're talking again, and she's been asking me for resources and I've got her convinced that there is no way he'll get custody of their kids (his big threat, too). I hope she's ready to leave him soon, but I let her know that either way, she can always talk to me and I'll try to help her any way I can. *I added a trigger to this.

I need help *abuse trigger*

I forgot to add that when I stopped hanging around with her, our friendship had been pretty strained for a while because I always brought up how she should leave him and she always got defensive. She pretty much stopped telling me anything because she knew what I'd say.

I need help *abuse trigger*

She knows she's in an abusive relationship adn wants to leave but is afraid she'll lose her babies. Sorry it took me so long to get back. I was hoping more people would reply. It became obvious that they wouldn't so I'm writing back. She wants to leave sooooo bad and talks about how she wishes he'd die in Iraq. I don't know how to convince her that he can't take her babies away.

I need help *abuse trigger*

Do you have a free legal clinic, or a lawyer that does free consults? If you can get her out to go to that and find out what her rights are, that might help her understand that his threats are just that, threats. If she can't go (because he'll find out about it or something) maybe you could go for her and give her the information. You could also call a domestic violence hotline/woman's shelter for help. They might be able to tell you some things that would help her realize that this is a common threat from abusers and what to do about it.

I need help *abuse trigger*

Someone in his family has to be with her at all times when she goes somewhere. All because he hates my DH and doesn't want her to be around him. We have legal aid but I'd have to look it up. I'll suggest it to her, but whenever I bring up to her that she should leave him, she just kinda rolls her eyes and say I know and I will when he lays a hand on me. Thats the part that scares me is she says when. I'm just scared for her. I know I can't make her decisions for her but I just don't want her to get hurt KWIM?

I need help *abuse trigger*

Sorry I didn't see this earlier. I think you should get her to record the things he says/threatens. Then you should get her to build up a record of everything. And when she feels secure that she has enough ''evidence" which shouldn't take long considering this guy is dishing em out like nothing she should leave.

I need help *abuse trigger*

Thats a really good idea. And that way, if she ever feels like she wants to go back to him, she can look at it and remember why she left him in the first place...

I need help *abuse trigger*

I wrote this a long time ago, on the black and green boards. but it is what helped me leave an abusive relationship and is a sticky here. http://www.girl-mom.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3029 It has lots of helpful info, especially the safety plan/how to leave. but what it really boils down to is if she isn't ready to fully leave, she won't. trust me it took me way to long to leave, even though people had good intentions I didn't leave. I wasn't ready and that is all that mattered. I joined girlmom, after I left, but had I had this site it might have been different, maybe you could show her the site and see if it helps her. good luck.

I need help *abuse trigger*

Watching a friend in an abusive relationship is so hard. She will not leave until she is ready to. Even if she says she is ready to, ultimatly, she is the one who has to make that decision and take the action. You can help her with resources. If she comes over with her brothers sister, you can ask her to help you in the kitchen and slip her some paper with the resources on it. How does the brothers familiy feel about this? Do they know what is going on?

I need help *abuse trigger*

They know what is going on and are helping him by following her around. She's technically not supposed to even see me since I'm married to Crit and thats the whole thing. He's controlling when shes not around Crit and in Cali too but much more so when she's here in town. I've talked to her about GM (I do all my young mom friends and try to get them to join! Hasn't worked yet but I will get one to eventually!) She's been sneaking here into town when they aren't home and she just doesn't answer their calls. She's coming this Fri (supposedly. A lot of the times it doesn't end up working out) and staying the night. I'll show her GM and that link Tricia gave. Thanks guys. I'm just so worried and not used to sitting back.

I need help *abuse trigger*

Wow, I'm so sorry I didn't see this post before because, as you know, I'm going through a similar situation. I'm here for you though, if you wanna PM or talk through Myspace. Again, I'm so sorry I didn't get to this earlier. I feel like crap.

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